tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post116179744736610707..comments2021-08-24T12:05:40.828-04:00Comments on signs-along-the-way: St. Inuksukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09948263711902058871noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1162236816850206452006-10-30T14:33:00.000-05:002006-10-30T14:33:00.000-05:00Mrs. m, not to worry. I'll just bet most cleaners ...Mrs. m, not to worry. I'll just bet most cleaners have seen worse. <BR/>Although, I admit, that I sometimes touch up some areas and things between cleanings, because "they just never do it as well as I can."St. Inuksukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948263711902058871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1162236617499493202006-10-30T14:30:00.000-05:002006-10-30T14:30:00.000-05:00Good to hear from all of you! Nice to know I'm not...Good to hear from all of you! Nice to know I'm not out in left field with this. Actually, LH does the majority of the grocery shopping, empties and runs dish washer (we share that duty), mows and weed whacks, does his own laundry and ironing. So we do split up our chores.St. Inuksukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09948263711902058871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161918355875105452006-10-26T23:05:00.000-04:002006-10-26T23:05:00.000-04:00I am a full time clergywoman with a spouse who is ...I am a full time clergywoman with a spouse who is a full time Dad. He does most of the cleaning/dishes/laundry (probably 80%) and I do the other 20%.<BR/>When we both worked full time (which was true for our first 10 years of marriage), we had a less than spic and span house that was cleaned in time for guests! But we have always shared the housework... it used to be more even... and always shared. Seems to me, that is the real issue... why is it your responsibility to have the house clean?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717810311212306871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161908627162804222006-10-26T20:23:00.000-04:002006-10-26T20:23:00.000-04:00Not a clergywoman (yet?) but it's agreed that when...Not a clergywoman (yet?) but it's agreed that when we get there, we will have help. You simply cannot do everything. <BR/><BR/>(In the meantime, I'm too embarrassed by how dirty my house is to let someone in to clean it!)Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501047587752329779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161905376262255032006-10-26T19:29:00.000-04:002006-10-26T19:29:00.000-04:00I work fulltime and then some, and we have a domes...I work fulltime and then some, and we have a domestic goddess who comes weekly. As I look back over the past ten years (seminary and then ministry), I can tell you that my mental health has *always* been better with household help. ALWAYS. It is not only a relationship issue, it is a self-care issue. I pay $60 for a massage once a month because if I don't my neck gets so tense that I am non-functional. This is no different. We feel better, sleep better, work better, relate better in a reasonably clean and tidy environment. <BR/>I will leave you with this: after Easter worship, my sister-in-law came over to my house to cook the holiday meal. She said, "I do not see how it would be possible for a person to do the kind of work you do and keep house, too." Hearing that from an accomplished homemaker gave me a release from guilt, and I am not going back!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08235049965406944684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161872477064688462006-10-26T10:21:00.000-04:002006-10-26T10:21:00.000-04:00I agree with what's generally been said. And we ha...I agree with what's generally been said. And we have cleaners every other week. Both work full time.<BR/><BR/>Jledmiston is right--it is a sacred thing and part of my self-care. I certainly do my share of tidying and cleaning but having everything sparkling and new every couple of weeks--it's like a spiritual reset.reverendmotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457532866087494676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161866634661063982006-10-26T08:43:00.000-04:002006-10-26T08:43:00.000-04:00I have househelp once a week. If you work outside ...I have househelp once a week. <BR/>If you work outside of the home, even for one hour a week, have small children or just want help: get a house helper.<BR/><BR/>Do without something else to pay for help.St. Casserolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14046979001194772038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161865924214606372006-10-26T08:32:00.001-04:002006-10-26T08:32:00.001-04:00We have a rule around here - if it bothers you eno...We have a rule around here - if it bothers you enough to complain about it, it's yours! (Kind of like the "you break it, you buy it" rule.) We've been saving money like mad to help our daughter with wedding expenses - after the 1st of the year - there will absolutely without a doubt be an angel in this house once a week who is paid to help us keep the dust bunnies at bay.<BR/><BR/>Side note - once had a lovely old widow in my church who told me she never cleaned the dust from under the bed. She said it wasn't Biblical. After all, God had made a man from dust once - who knew, maybe God would bless her by doing it again!<BR/><BR/>And yes - both my husband and I are fulltime in church work.Nina Reederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164699526587736134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161865921994062042006-10-26T08:32:00.000-04:002006-10-26T08:32:00.000-04:00Not a clergywoman here, but a fulltime worker for ...Not a clergywoman here, but a fulltime worker for years -- and no cleaning crew. Great idea. But when would we find the time to hire one?Gannet Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16374279595560691174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161865541291481242006-10-26T08:25:00.000-04:002006-10-26T08:25:00.000-04:00I am not a pastor, so you should keep this out of ...I am not a pastor, so you should keep this out of your poll! <BR/><BR/>But, just IMHO - Until your spouse is willing to be as responsible for the cleaning of your home as you are (I assume you both work full time) he needs to shut up. Either/both about the un clean ness of the house, or the cleaning people. <BR/><BR/>I work 2 jobs and do most of the housework (my DH is 15 years older than I, and a hard working contractor, and comes home exhausted, so that is OK with me). I have muddled along with not-very-clean or tidy and that is okay. Then last week we had cleaners (due to our home improvement debacle). We are electrified! We are having a cleaner from now on. <BR/><BR/>Though I still can't find anything. Because the cleaners put it away!Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970052534402740820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161848696282634182006-10-26T03:44:00.000-04:002006-10-26T03:44:00.000-04:00I remember being told in seminary that the first c...I remember being told in seminary that the first call you make in your first parish is to a cleaning service. Married or not. Kids or not. It is a holy experience to walk into your humble abode at the end of a long day and realize that someone has cleaned your baseboards. It's a sacred thing.<BR/><BR/>(A cleaning team -- yes it takes a whole team around here -- comes once every 2 weeks.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161836354086386912006-10-26T00:19:00.000-04:002006-10-26T00:19:00.000-04:00I am not a full-time clergy person but I do work p...I am not a full-time clergy person but I do work part-time in ministry and part-time from home, my husband works out of home full-time and to save our sanity we pay for someone to come clean every other week. It makes a world of difference, especially because my cleaning standards are far greater than his. We consider it a small price to pay for some peace between us.Abbey of the Artshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14209930033173790793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161824979887635622006-10-25T21:09:00.000-04:002006-10-25T21:09:00.000-04:00I'm a full time seminarian, part time church worke...I'm a full time seminarian, part time church worker and have no one. And any time we have people over (which is every Monday for Bible study) the house must be cleaned beforehand. It is a disaster every week. I am trying to stay ahead. It is impossible.<BR/><BR/>We have not found a cleaning service who charges less than the place that changes oil in your car... so we haven't gotten one yet. But we are looking.<BR/><BR/>dAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161820613073946672006-10-25T19:56:00.000-04:002006-10-25T19:56:00.000-04:00I am so tired for you.I am not yet a pastors wife,...I am so tired for you.<BR/>I am not yet a pastors wife, but this is the agreement...If we both work, we have a cleaning person even if it is only twice a month.(Present circumstances do not permit this but it is our agreement) Our pastor (and field ed. supervisor) recommended it.<BR/>There is a book that is called "A Housekeeper is Cheaper than a Divorce", maybe you should pick it up at the library and leave it somewhere conspicuous!hip2bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00043622691294207012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29608708.post-1161818518490145602006-10-25T19:21:00.000-04:002006-10-25T19:21:00.000-04:00Enough. I am overwhelmed with your week. I thought...Enough. I am overwhelmed with your week. I thought I worked hard.<BR/><BR/>Just what does he mean, I thought you were going to clean? Excuse me, you both pastor and you are going to clean. No but H*double L no. <BR/><BR/>We have had a cleaning person when we both worked. It was the only way the house was clean. When we moved here Bob promised to clean as long as he doesn't work. I await the day he goes back to work so it will be clean again. And he even admitted we needed one. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps you two need to talk, but I don't know when, about some compromising, like he not be home when they clean, or they come on a different day or he cleans. I am sorry I know I have been a little overboard. But I think when two of the couple work, that either both clean or there is a hired cleaning person.<BR/>So no I don't think you are out of line. This may be about a deeper issue though, and needs to be talked out together.<BR/><BR/>And yes I am full time clergy woman.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.com